Has anyone here heard of Jeunesse? I hadn’t, but my cousin Bob sure had.
Yeah, I was surprised when Bob told me about Jeunesse. You see, Bob kinda lived in a cave. He had hardly heard of anything these days. Uber? Nope. Deliveroo? Nope. AirBnB? Nada. But…….. Jeunesse? Why had he heard of them, but not some of the biggest companies on the planet?
You see, Bob wasn’t living in a REAL cave. He was living in a video game cave. Yeah. One of THOSE guys.
Call of Duty, League of Legends, Fortnite. One of THOSE guys. Believe me, he was far too old for this, crap, but he wouldn’t listen.
Thing is, Bob didn’t have a real job. He came into a bit of cash a few years ago and decided to throw in the towel on his mid-level management gig.
I didn’t blame him, I hate those cubicle-prisons as much as the next guy. That’s why I’ve recently been working real hard on a LEGIT way to make money and be my own boss at the same time. Local Lead Generation. More on that soon.
But back to Bob for a minute. So yeah, he’d come into this money. Instead of investing it wisely and setting it himself up for the rest of his life, he jacked in his job and played video games.
He was SUPER-addicted to those things. People thought he was a loser, but he didn’t care. He was even one of those guys that’d spend thousands on “In-Game” purchases. I didn’t really know WTF they were either, but they sure seemed like a MASSIVE waste of money to me.
Each to their own, right? You can’t judge how someone wants to live their life. Some of my other relatives sure were, but I’m not that kind of guy.
I mean his ma, my aunt—she was raging at him any time she could. He had his own place, so he managed to avoid that most of the time.
Why hadn’t he heard of AirBnB? He never went away.
Why hadn’t he heard of Uber? He barely left his video game cave.
Why hadn’t he heard of Deliveroo or Uber-Eats? This one might be a bit more of a surprise because he was CERTAINLY the type of guy who enjoyed his pizza and other take-outs. But he was lucky enough to live across the road from a couple of stores and had a few others on speed-dial. He was old-school like that.
The thing is, Bob had a bit of a problem. He was running out of cash.
Too many pizzas and in-game purchases.
He needed a real job.
The other problem was—Bob did NOT want a real job. The real world had kinda left him behind over the last few years.
So how had he heard of Jeunesse? He’d started researching ways to make some money as his own boss, and this was one of the ventures he’d landed.
I was really sceptical about Jeunesse when I started doing a bit of research. If you want to know a bit more about it and whether it might be right for you. AND whether it was right for Bob, then keep reading this Jeunesse review so I can help you out.
Let’s start with the basics. What even IS Jeunesse?
Jeunesse is a range of anti-ageing skincare products. There’s a LOT of hype around them.
Despite not being available in any of the big department stores. SOME people were saying this stuff is the best in the game. Do you believe these people? I didn’t.
But hey, I should stop being so judgmental, right? Let’s do a bit more research first.
I know you’re already starting to question Bob’s role in this. I was too, believe me.
Let’s put it this was, he was definitely NOT the poster boy for anti-ageing skincare.
He’d been playing video games and eating pizza in the dark for the last 5 years.
So WHY did Bob pick Jeunesse over all these other things he could have started promoting?
If he WANTED to get involved in a pyramid scheme (I’m not sure why that’d be anyone’s first choice)—there were loads of other ones.
He could even start promoting tech products. Better fit, right? Or even pizza.
But no, Bob was gonna be a Jeunesse sales rep.
Turns out he’d met someone in his Call of Duty clan that was pushing this stuff. They were a bit higher up in the pyramid and Bob and seen how they were able to quit their day-job too.
Okay, so happenstance happens. Hence the name. Bob was into Jeunesse. I still wasn’t sure this was the right fit. But it is what it is.
But what about Jeunesse itself? That’s what you’re really here for. You banged “Jeunesse scam” or ” Jeunesse review” into Google and ended up at this review. You could have done a lot worse. But you wanna know more. I got you.
You see, I was intrigued as well. The reality was, I still really liked Bob. Despite his many faults, I didn’t wanna see him get burned. So I decided to do a bit more digging into Jeunesse. Maybe you can check out this review so you don’t have to.
Let’s start with the products. That’s always a good place to start.
There’s one main product with Jeunesse, and that’s “Instantly Ageless”.
I tried some, and it did NOT make me instantly ageless.
Okay, you probably expected that.
Cool name, but was it any good in general?
This is not something I knew too much about. Neither did Bob.
But what I DID know about is pyramid schemes. Sorry. I meant to say “MLM Network”. I keep doing that.
Jeunesse was founded in 2009 by two people named Randy Ray and Wendy Lewis.
They’ve got a range of products, with the Instantly Ageless cream being the flagship one. They also sell health supplements and more.
All good so far, right?
But what Bob and I soon found out was that the main way to make money wasn’t by selling these products like a normal affiliate, it was by hiring more sales reps to work under your.
The sirens were ringing at this point.
THAT’S how pyramid schemes work.
The people at the top make their money from the sales rep network rather than actually selling many, or any, products.
And what was Bob thinking at this point?
The trouble was, Bob isn’t really the type of guy that knows many potential skincare sales reps. He’s not the sort of guy who knows any.
To start selling stuff for Jeunesse you’ve gotta buy their $29.95 start kit. Boo!
I’ve worked for so many top affiliate networks and basically none of them make you buy stuff before you can promote stuff. But pyramid schemes? They basically all do.
That’s basically how they work.
So you get a starter website with the start kit which isn’t bad in itself. And I’ve seen a lot more expensive pyramids to get into, for sure.
You’ve also gotta pay about $20 a year to stay in the system. This is still A BIT fishy, but I’ve seen ones that are a LOT more expensive, believe me.
However, there’s one part of Jeunesse that makes them a fair bit better than most other pyramid schemes. You CAN be a wholesale customer and buy these products to sell on your own. This is decent, but the products are expensive.
As Bob soon found out, they were hard to sell, too.
I soon did a little research and found that the authorities were starting to come down hard on the claims that were being used to sell a number of these Jeunesse products. Like, some of it was really NOT verifiable and nowhere near as good as you thought. You mean they AREN’T instantly ageless? What a surprise.
A lot of the sales rep teams are apparently promoting these products as miracle cures.
I knew that some of this came from top-down. But some might not have.
The problem was, pyramid networks like this always tend to create a load of people who’re desperate to sell the products. They bought into the hard-sell themselves, thought they were gonna be making loads of money, but soon realized they weren’t. A lot of them were even losing money.
This always creates desperate people. They aren’t all bad people, some are just in a bad place. But they will hype these products to try and sell them. They’re in a hole themselves, normally.
But that’s because in many MLM networks like this, the only real way to make money is by hiring more sales reps. You get a cut from their fees and move higher up the pyramid. That’s why the people at the top are making plenty of wedge. They get paid no matter what, even if no products are sold. They don’t even NEED any products. They just get money from the sales network. Those signup fees, remember?
So how was Bob doing with all this? Surprise surprise, Bob wasn’t making any money. In fact, Bob had lost enthusiasm for Jeunesse. He did start talking about a couple of other MLM schemes and I was worried he was gonna blow even more on them, but a serious chat made him get a bit of perspective.
You see, while Bob didn’t like Jeunesse or MLM marketing, he had started to enjoy getting out of the house a bit more. He had to, as he’d realized early on that selling Jeunesse over Call of Duty server chats was never gonna work. So he had at least STARTED to get out into the real world. And guess what? He liked it.
He still played the odd video game and ate a bit too much pizza. But things were getting better.
He’d finally realized he might have to go and get a real job. So he was getting out there and doing just that. Part-time, to start with. But hey, there’s nothing wrong with that.
And another positive was that he still had some money saved up from before. He hadn’t spent it ALL on beer, pizza and video games. Phew. Things were looking up for Bob, but his future wasn’t gonna be with Jeunesse.
He was interested in other ways to make money online alongside his real job. I told him about Local Lead Generation, which I’d been happy with for some time now. It’s a lot better than any of these pyramid schemes. I think Bob can make it a success, too.
Back in high school, there was this dude in my class called Ron.
Now Ron was BIG into ancient Egypt. He loved that stuff.
That’s cool, everyone’s gotta have a passion.
Bruce was into Space, bigtime.
Me? I was into baseball.
The teachers were probably a bit happier with kids wanting to be archaeologists or physicists than some pie-in-the-sky baseball dream. But I didn’t care.
Maybe there were right, though. Bruce went on to work for NASA. Nice.
And Ron? Well things were a bit different with Ron.
I hadn’t heard from him for a good few years.
This one night me and the boys were cutting the crap in the local bar.
Just a few drinks after a hard week, you know how it goes.
Then imagine my surprise when someone piped up with some new info on our old boy Ron.
No, he wasn’t leading expeditions into ancient Egypt.
But he WAS doing something to do with pyramids.
He was working for a PYRAMID SCHEME!
One of my other bros was laughing about how ironic that was, since he was so into ancient Egypt. I’m not sure it was irony, but then English wasn’t my passion either. It sure was funny though.
Since I’d been working in internet marketing for a while now, I’d seen a lot of these come and go.
You see, I’d been making some good bank for a few years with Local Lead Generation. It’s as legit as they come. More on that later.
But the thing is, before I found Local Lead Generation, I’d tried a lot of duds.
Things you THINK are gonna take off, but never do.
So I’d seen a lot of these pyramid schemes. I’d seen a lot of people fail on them, too.
I was always kinda apprehensive about getting into them.
I’d seen how they sometimes preyed on desperate people. But I’d also seen people make good money from them.
So I wanted to know more about this scheme. It was called World Ventures. Nope, never heard of it either. It sure sounded pretty generic.
But I’d always been the kinda guy who didn’t like to rush to judgements.
Ron was one of the smartest guys in our class. He was also a decent bloke.
And apparently, he’d been making real bank with this.
We’re talking yacht money. Nice.
Living the dream!
So I decided to have a closer look into World Ventures. I was gonna start at the bottom without any prejudices. See if it works for normal people who DIDN’T get into it early like Ron did.
You see, I didn’t mind some of the marketing networks. They tend to call them MLM or MultiLevel Marketing. It’s all good if the products are quality and the people at the bottom (the late adopters) can still make money.
Was that the case with World Ventures? Read my World Ventures review to find out.
World Ventures Review
At the start, I thought it’d be a good idea to give Ron a heads up. I thought I could ask him a few questions and make sure he knew I was gonna be writing this review.
Trouble is, I was having a hard time getting hold of him.
I mean, we weren’t that close back in the day, but I still thought he’d talk to me.
I reached out to some of his closer friends. No luck.
I was starting to think he didn’t really want to talk about World Ventures.
I wondered why, but tried not to make any judgements.
It was no biggie, I mean maybe it’d be better if I just got into World Ventures without any prior knowledge. Like the real people who were just starting on this.
But wait a minute. I’m getting WAY ahead of myself here. We haven’t even covered the basics. What even IS World Ventures?
Let’s have a look…
World Ventures touts itself as a dream vacation provider. That’s all good, I can dig it.
Only instead of actually selling these vacations yourself, it turns out the main way to make money is by recruiting other salespeople. That’s kinda how most pyramid schemes work these days. Sorry. Most MLM networks, I meant. Ha!
Anyway, they’re not all bad. I wanted to know if World Ventures was one of the good ones. After all, Ron had been making big bucks, right?
World Ventures was founded in 2005, and it brought in nearly a billion in revenue in 2016. Nice.
They SAY they’ve got 500,000 employees—but this figure’s unconfirmed. I reckon they’re simply adding up the number of network salespeople that occasionally work for them. Maybe that have EVER worked for them. But again, this is unconfirmed as well. It’s just a hunch. I’m 100% on hunches half of the time.
So World Ventures was started by this dude Wayne Nugent, along with his buddy Mike Azcue. They SAY that they wanted to build the “Mary Kay of travel”—I found that blurb when I was Googling them. Trouble is, I don’t know who Mary Kay is. I guess that’s for another article. What I THINK they’re saying is that they wanna be successful. I get that. Don’t we all?
Anyway, things certainly got off to a good start for Wayne and Mike. Ernst and Young even nominated our boy Wayne to be entrepreneur of the year in 2010. So these aren’t the sort of scam artists you see running other networks. They’ve got traction and a reasonably amount of respect in industry circles.
But does that mean it’s a good idea signing up to be a World Ventures rep? I’m not sure.
Yes, the guys at the top are raking it in. Big respect to them for that. But what about guys like me who were just gonna start at the bottom and hopefully make some money? What about guys like you?
I’m sure that’s why you’re at this World Ventures review. After all, it’s too late to be one of the lucky ones who got in at the start. Guys like Ron. What happened to Ron, anyway? More on Ron later.
It hasn’t been completely plain-sailing for Mike and Wayne, either. They’ve made a ton of cash—but they’ve also been sued continuously. Even by the Norwegian Government.
These guys weren’t fans.
What were they sued for? Being a pyramid scheme, basically. Told you.
Should have known, since Ron was always into those Egyptians.
What does World Ventures Even sell?
We’ve got this far into the review and you still don’t really know what World Ventures are trying to pimp. It’s about travel, we get that, but what’s so special about it?
In a word… Nothing.
I mean, they’re offering discounts and other travel-based offers for a monthly fee. A lot of this stuff can be found on other big-name affiliate sites WITHOUT the monthly fee. You’re basically paying for discounts. Some of them are ok, but I wouldn’t say they’re REALLY worth singing up to a monthly plan for.
Look, it’s not scammy at this level. You won’t see me calling this a World Ventures scam. You pay your monthly fee, and you get some good discounts.
Some people might prefer to do this than spend hours finding these discounts individually. Time is money, right?
But when I looked a bit deeper into these offers they seemed even less attractive. They weren’t flexible at all with dates or anything like that. Basically, if you like an offer, you have to book it on their terms and the ability to customize things isn’t easy.
You can’t combine offers either, or save reward points to spend all at once. Things are pretty limited here. There are much better travel offer sites out there. Many of these you don’t have to pay for.
This is always one of my biggest problems with pyramid schemes like this. Sorry, MLM Networks. Keep making that mistake.
Basically, if the products are good, then what’s the problem? I don’t see one with using a network to promote stuff.
But when they products AREN’T good, that’s when I start to have second thoughts.
But the REAL problem with MLM networks like this is even bigger…
It’s that they’re really hard to make money with for people at the bottom of the pyramid.
So if the people buying these plans aren’t getting anything good, and the people selling them aren’t making any money. What’s the point? Answers on a postcard, please.
Oh yeah. I know what the point was—the people at the stop still continue to make money. Just nobody else gets any value at all from this stuff.
THAT’S why MLM networks are getting a bad rap these days.
So in order to become an affiliate with World Ventures, you gotta pay a signup fee and then a monthly fee. Most affiliate networks I’ve worked with are happy to let you in for free in return for promoting their products.
Problem is, because the products aren’t that great or easy to promote—the main way it seems like World Ventures makes any money is with these membership plans. Yep, you got it—they make the bulk of their cash from their affiliates, rather than their actual products.
And when you realise that you’ve gotta pay for an even more costly affiliate membership in order to qualify for the best commissions, things get even harder.
I remember when i first got into affiliate marketing, I was stoked with how much content and help PROPER affiliates gave me. And when I started making sales, I started making money. I DID NOT have to pay them before I started making sales. And I qualified for higher commissions based on my performance, NOT how much I paid them. Spotting the difference here? That’s not how World Ventures works…
And while people are still making money from World Ventures (people like Ron)—there’s an income disclosure statement which makes for interesting reading.
Basically, it says that 80% of affiliates aren’t making any money from World Ventures. And that 99% of affiliates make less than $2,000 a year. For those of you thinking about quitting their day jobs for this—think again. For those who’ve ALREADY quit their day jobs for this—Ouch.
So nobody’s really making money from this anymore? Not the people at the bottom, anyway. And there are loads of legal issues associated with World Ventures? And the products people end up with aren’t that great? I think you know which way to go on this already.
And back to the product range. The problem with using this model to promote World Ventures is that you often get desperate salespeople who’re already out of pocket pushing low-quality products to people who don’t really want them. The hard sell. You got it. This leaves both parties unhappy. And that’s not a party I wanna be involved in. No cake, either.
So what happened to Ron? Ah yeah, our boy Ron.
He still wasn’t answering my calls. Ron, bro! We go way back.
I’d heard on the grapevine that he’d been taking a lot of heat from friends and family that he’d got involved in World Ventures. He’d made some nice cash, and bought some cool stuff. But things were drying up. Word was that he’d moved on to some more legit money-making ventures. Good for him.
But where does that leave the people further down the pyramid? I want my $200 signup fee back!
A bit later, I started finding some better ways to make money online.
What I realised was that these get rich quick schemes were often just that. Schemes.
To make actual money, you’ve normally gotta put a bit of work in. I know that doesn’t sound like fun to most of you. But that’s just the way it is.
I found this other cool gig called Local Lead Generation. It lets you set up your own lead generation business for real clients who pay well. It could be your first step towards that passive income deal you’ve always wanted. It was for me, anyway. You should check it out.
Before I get started on this Kyani Review, I need to start with a little story.
You see, I’ve wanted to be an entrepreneur for years. Decades even.
Recently, I started making real money online with Local Lead Generation. I’m gonna tell you more about that towards the end of this Kyani Review. But before that, I tried and failed a lot of different times.
Believe me I’ve tried, and believe me I’ve FAILED. Bigtime. Over and over again.
Way back in junior high I decided I was gonna sell smoothies outside school.
I picked some fresh fruit from the local trees, made up a few recipes, and juiced them all up.
This was way before the health juice craze got really big, so I still attest that’s the reason I failed. I was before my time, honest.
If only mine were this fresh.
I always had some good sales patter so drumming up business at the start was easy. I gave them cool names and shouted from the rooftops. Or from the sidewalk, in reality.
A couple of teachers got suspicious. I was worried the authorities were gonna SHUT ME DOWN.
But that’s not why I failed. In the end those same teachers smirked and turned a blind eye. I think they were kinda impressed by the creativity that was on show. This was way back in the 90s so there weren’t as many snowflakes around and people just kinda let you do things like this as long as nobody was getting harmed.
Some would say these were simpler times. But anyway. I’m not getting into THAT.
Trouble was, my smoothies were actually pretty disgusting.
The names were cool, the sales pitch was good. Great location too. But terrible products. Ouch.
That meant no repeat custom. A severe blow to any business.
THAT’S why my juice venture failed. The “authorities” needn’t have worried.
I didn’t last much longer than a week before I got bored and started thinking about the next get-rich-quick scheme.
Maybe I should have worked a bit harder on my original recipes. Or maybe I WAS just before my time. Who knows.
Anyway, why am I telling you this?
I know you’re reading this because you banged in something like “kyani reviews” or “kyani scam” into Google.
When I saw this opportunity to sell health juices like this, it brought back fond memories. Maybe it was meant to be?
Only I’d also heard a few negative stories about this brand and business opportunity. Some people were even saying it was a pyramid scheme. And I’m not normally a fan of those.
So I decided to roll back the years and try to become a juice magnate once more. I jumped into Kyani as a business opportunity so I could write this review.
I’m gonna tell you whether it’s something you should get involved in, or if it really IS something you should be avoiding.
Check out my Kyani review for all the info you need and more.
Let’s start with the basics. What even IS Kyani?
Don’t worry, I got you.
Kyani is basically a big juice drink company. You got that already, right?
Well this one was formed by the merger of two experienced juice making families. The Taylors and the Hansens.
They’re all about nature. Good hippie vibes.
Their main idea was to use fruits, sometimes unusual fruits, to make unique and healthy drinks and a range of other products. So we’re not just talking about freshly squeezed orange juice, but drinks and stuff with Alaskan Blueberries or Swiss apple in.
It’s a good niche, I’ll give them that. The products certainly sound good. They look good too. But what do they TASTE like? That’s gotta be the most important factor before we even get into Kyani as a business opportunity. I knew that myself. Remember how badly my garbage-tasting juices had done? It’s all in the taste.
Well get this…
Kyani’s drinks taste incredible.
They’re so fresh and tasty. They might even be some of the best juice drinks I’ve ever tried. WAY better than those ones I tried to make. I mean you’re probably not surprised that a multinational company made better juice than a 12-year old kid, but maybe my ego was a bit bruised.
Their story actually goes a bit deeper. There’s a load of stuff about a surprise visit to Alaska and a realization that their diet helps them be healthier than the rest of the continental United States. This sounds good, but I don’t know how true it is.
Apparently blueberries and salmon are much better for you than burgers for breakfast. Who knew?
So these Alaskan blueberries are like the newest superfood on the block. Believe me, I’ve seen plenty of these fads before. Spirulina, Kale, you name it. But apparently Alaskan Blueberries are the next big thing. They’re even 48-times more powerful as an antioxidant than regular blueberries. Which are already pretty good.
The home of the best blueberries.
So these Alaskan blueberries are like one of the cornerstones of Kyani’s product range. But they’ve sourced a load of other cool stuff too.
Their claims? I’m not sure. But I can definitely believe that a more fruit-based diet was gonna be better for most people. One of their flagship products was a drink called Kyani Sunset. This thing tastes good and has a whole load of apparent nutrients and health benefits. It was expensive, though. We’ll get to that in a minute.
So now we know a bit more about Kyani and their product range, what about them as a business opportunity?
That’s where things get SLIGHTLY less tasty. Where should i start?
I thought I was gonna be getting involved in simply promoting Kyani drinks like a regular affiliate. You know the deal. I even had a few ideas for affiliate websites I could set up. I’d done a few of them before. Some successful, some not.
But I LOVED the product so I was pretty happy to promote it. Or I thought I was.
That’s one of the big things with marketing products. You’ve gotta like the product itself so you can really sell it. I know I’d sold insurance before, but who’s really passionate about instance. Nobody.
I WAS passionate about these tasty, healthy drinks so selling them was gonna be easy as pie, right?
The main problem straight off the bat is Kyani’s price. It’s expensive. I’ve seen plenty of cool health drinks in the local health store for like a quarter of the price. Seriously.
Ok, but drinks like Kyani Sunset are REALLY good. Maybe the price-point is worth it? Maybe, but I’m sceptical, I’m not gonna lie.
You see, while the products might be great—Kyani’s moved quite a long way from that and has basically turned into a massive distribution company. They’re making A LOT of money. Like a billion lot.
And the main way to promote Kyani and make money as a sales rep? Yep, it’s a Multi-Level Marketing network (another one). So the main way is via a pyramid.
I’ve seen a lot of these gigs before. Not ALL of them are bad, believe me. But it’s hard to find a great one.
The good thing about Kyani is that their products are legit. I mean, I’m no doctor so I can’t tell you how legit they are when it comes to their health benefits. But I’ve done some reading and things add up.
They ARE legit tasting, and I like the brand.
But as a way to make money? I’m not so sure. Seems like the only people making money from this is the people at the top. That’s always the way with pyramid schemes like this. Is it a Kyani scam? I’m not sure I’d go that far. But there are much better ways to make money. Like Local Lead Generation. More on that later.
So for those guys like me who got on at the bottom of the pyramid, it soon transpires that these products are a much harder sell than I thought.
I was disappointed. I guess it was like my own juice stand gig all over again. Only this time it wasn’t the taste that was putting people off, it was the price.
I mean I was selling those things for a dime a pop so the price was all good back in the day. But these Kyani price drinks have a preferred customer price of around $40. Okay, you get a decent volume for that. But it’s not an impulse buy for someone who’s first seen Kyani Sunset at a drinks machine.
I had a chat with a couple of other Kyani reps who were a bit further into things than me. They weren’t happy, either.
You see, they’d made hardly any money with this thing. As with so many other MLM schemes like this, actually making money was REALLY hard. The only way to really get ahead of the game is to recruit more sales reps underneath you and get a bit higher up the pyramid.
That’s always my main issue with these schemes. The product is great, fine. That sure puts Kyani ahead of a number of other MLM networks. Only the main way to make money is simply recruiting more sales reps. NOT selling the actual products. Drinks, in this case.
Not exactly like this.
This creates a sales network that’s desperate and pushy. I’ve seen it first-hand so many times myself.
Networks like this do tend to prey on people who’ve bought into the hard sell. People who want to make better lives for themselves but haven’t thought things through properly or simply haven’t had the right breaks in life.
Problem is, these pyramid schemes are rarely the right breaks. Unless you got in early, that is.
Also, when being recruited by higher-up Kyani reps, you do get a lot of misinformation. There were some really unverifiable claims about the benefits of the products. This not only convinces newer reps to continue to spout the same sort of claims, it also misleads customers. These guys weren’t doctors, but they were acting and talking like them. Not a fan, personally.
The other big problem with the sales pitch was how much money they said we’d be making. The reality is, hardly any of the newer reps are making any bank whatsoever.
Where do they want you to start recruiting first of all? Your friends and family. I wasn’t happy with this. I liked the drinks, but the prices were a bit ridiculous. And I knew my friends did NOT want me to come around with ANOTHER one of those great pyramid idea schemes. Like me, they’d seen them all before.
The other problem? You gotta buy your own products before you can sell them. I don’t need to tell you how any legit company runs, but they’d never do this sort of thing. Kyani is making money off their own sales team. That’s how they make money.
The products are basically a front. It could be any product.
The way Kyani makes money is through you, the sales rep. You don’t make any money. Most of the time.
So. Kyani isn’t all it’s cracked up to be. It’s a real shame, because the product line is awesome. Super-legit. If only they were a bit cheaper. If only they were marketed properly rather than in a pyra-sorry, “MLM Network”.
As for other ways to make money online? I know you’ve been waiting for the REAL juice. And these days, that’s Local Lead Generation. No pyramids in sight. Check it out, you’ll be as glad you did as I was.
There was this time when I really wanted this brand new toy. Yeah. I was younger then. Weren’t we all? The thing is, I didn’t even like LEGO that much, so I didn’t know WHY I had to have it.
But I did. I just had to have it.
Maybe it was FOMO. Loads of kids in my class already had the toy. I wanted it too.
But I soon learned a few things the hard way.
Everyone wants to get rich quick.
Firstly, you can’t just get what you want straight away. You gotta WORK for it.
But also… Sometimes when you get that thing—It isn’t everything you thought it was gonna be. The thrill of the chase is sometimes better than the prize.
These are important lessons. They’re ones everyone has to learn sometime.
That’s why I’ve always been a bit sceptical about these “Get Rich Quick” schemes. You see them all over the place. Especially on the internet these days.
I’d recently started making some real money with Local Lead Generation. it’s a great gig, and I’ll tell you more about it later. But I also know there are a lot of less-legit gigs in the marketing world.
I’ve kinda made it my mission to drill down on these and let you know which are legit and which aren’t. That’s because I’ve seen loads of my buddies get burned by some of these schemes, and it’s not fun to see happen.
So when a few of my pals were chatting about Amway, I knew I needed to do a bit more investigation. To me, this sounded like a bus company or something—but no, Amway is apparently a legit venture that helps people start their own work-from-home businesses to promote a range of products.
But is it really legit? That’s the question.
There’s nothing wrong with home selling. You’ve seen how long Avon have been around. Totally legit. No argument here.
But there’s also a load of… let’s just say “less” legit players out there. A lot of stuff that seems awfully like pyramid schemes. Despite their protestations that they are definitely NOT pyramid schemes. Nope. Nothing to see here. Move along please…
So if you’ve got this far, you probably wanna know the nitty gritty about Amway. You’re in luck. That’s what this Amway review is here for. I actually signed up and jumped right in so I can give you the lowdown on whether Amway is something you should be joining, or avoiding like the plague. So let’s have a look…
That’s Amway… Not Tramway.
Ok, first thing’s first—you’ve got a question. It’s a simple question. What even is Amway?
Amway is a direct product selling business. It’s actually been around a long time. That normally stands for something, right? I mean, if something has been established for however many decades like Amway has, then it must be legit, right?
Look, this isn’t a complete Amway scam. They aren’t running off with your money. So in that respect, it’s legit. But is it really worth it? I’m not so sure.
Keep reading to find out why.
You see, Amway is a product selling business that makes you buy their products before you sell them on to other people.
This isn’t too bad in itself. I mean, it’s not like affiliate marketing where you can promote products without even buying them. Those are cool. But most businesses require you to hold stock. So this isn’t a problem.
However, as I soon found out… this wasn’t a great way to make money.
Firstly, the product line was limited. You’re left promoting less than great stuff. Oh yeah, you also have to promote it to people you know, rather than have some larger-scale online business venture. After all, these products aren’t really very unique.
So that’s not so good.
You’re probably wondering where people are really making money with Amway. Well that’s where things start to get a bit more pyramid-shaped.
Yes, you guessed it. Like a pyramid scheme.
What?! Another Pyramid!
The real money with Amway isn’t with buying and selling regular products like a normal business. It’s with hiring other sellers UNDER you to promote even more products. Bummer.
So the real money is made by having a network of other sellers that you’ve recruited. You take a cut from all their fees.
Now I think some of these Multi Level Marketing gigs get a bad rap. There’s nothing wrong with requiting different levels of promoters if the products at the bottom of the pyramid are still good. In other words, if even the guy at the bottom who hasn’t recruited any more sellers still manages to make some cash, then it’s all good.
The real problem is when those at the bottom can never really make any money. If the ONLY way to make money with a system is by recruiting other sellers on a never-ending cycle of dreaming about selling “products” but failing—then things aren’t so great.
And that’s what Amway is like.
Their product selection is poor.
I was like: wait, you want me to sell this crap? What else can I sell? Who am I even supposed to be selling it to? Nobody is gonna want this.
That’s when it was suggested that I recruit more sellers under me to start making real bank. Oh okay. I get it. Like a pyramid scheme? Yep, you got it.
And that’s the problem with things like Amway. The regular product sellers simply aren’t making any money. This isn’t a legit business opportunity in the mould you were probably hoping for.
It wasn’t what my pals were looking for either, and that’s probably why nearly all of them have failed with Amway.
Did I mention that you’ve got to jump through a few hoops to remain qualified at Amway so you can continue to “earn”? There’s a minimum monthly spend to remain qualified for commission. This wasn’t something I was happy with. I heard of some sellers actually buying products they didn’t need and couldn’t sell just so they could remain active. Ouch.
Amway has been around for over 50 years, so they must be doing something right. What that is, I’m not sure.
They’ve actually got quite an aggressive recruitment drive. I’d been approached to join a few times already. Now I know how a lot of these things work so it’s always been easy for me to say no. But for other people who’re a bit more desperate, it isn’t always that easy. That’s why I don’t like how these schemas prey on certain sorts of people. That’s why I’m here telling you that you PROBABLY want to avoid Amway. There are loads more legit ways to make money online. (we’ll get to that in a bit).
On the recruitment drive I was told I wouldn’t need any sales skills. Now I’ve never been much of a salesperson, so this got me interested straight off the bat. Trouble is, it wasn’t really true.
That’s because Amway IS a sales job. That’s basically the only way to make money. Either by selling the products or selling more sales positions.
This was a big negative for me. And get this, I talked to loads of people who’d been doing Amway for a while. Hardly any of them were making good money. All the actual GOOD salespeople had quit Amway already to make money with proper jobs. So those who were left were people without any real sales skills.
You’ll be given the hard sell with a load of “success stories”. These are pretty standard in this industry but the reality is that they’re a load of nonsense. They might be true. I really have no idea. But they aren’t a true representation of what’s gonna happen for you with Amway. Unless you get REALLY lucky.
I’ve yet to meet anyone who’s actually had real success with Amway. I think that tells you all you need to know. So I think those stories you get are completely made up. Maybe they’re not. But maybe they were from a time when Amway was actually a viable way to make money. After all, Amway has been around for over 50 years. They must have been doing something right at some point. But I can’t see what that is right now.
You can already tell I’m being pretty negative about Amway. Sue me. I gotta be honest for you guys.
The good news is that they ARE a legit business and shouldn’t be running off with your money. But that’s about as good as it gets. I’ve never really been a fan of those pyramid schemes. And while there are a lot worse ones out there. There are also a lot better ways to make money.
Oh and there’s one more thing that pissed me off. These motivational stories aren’t thrown at you for free, either. You’re not gonna believe this—but you gotta pay for them too!
This was crazy to me. Like you have to pay in order to have the privilege of being conned into buying the rest of their stuff. I didn’t get it. So I refused. That’s when another guy on the course “loaned” me his promotional material. When I saw it, I couldn’t believe he’d actually paid money for it himself.
At this point, things got even fishier. Someone got onto me from “higher up”. They were worried that I was gonna give away these CDs and MP3s for free.
This had me dumbfounded.
I mean, this is all promotional material that’s designed to get people to buy in to Amway and their products.
Every other affiliate marketing system I’d been involved in gave this stuff away for FREE. Some other programs were super happy for me to have ALL SORTS of content. For nothing.
Yet here were Amway getting a bit fussy over a few CDs and stuff.
You know why? It was because this was just another upline revenue stream for Amway. You got it. It wasn’t a way to actually promote their business. It was a way to sell more stuff.
And let me tell you, there wasn’t much value in them. Who wants to pay for promotional material like this? I know I didn’t.
Oh yeah, let’s get the popcorn in and watch a movie tonight. What’s the movie?…………. An Amway promotional video.
Amway really starts to fall down when you start to look at who’s making money from it.
On average, Amway IBOs (that’s the qualified seller level) made a loss of $1.176 per year. Yes, there are some people who made money. Some of them even made having-a-job money. But I didn’t know anyone who did THAT well from it.
All the people I met in my first few weeks with Amway were struggling, or they’d given up and jumped onto the next big idea. I met a lot of people at the first few meetings and a lot of these were motivated guys who wanted to find the next way to get rich. Trouble is, it wasn’t Amway. I hadn’t seen ANYONE get rich from this.
So if you’re gonna ask me if I think Amway’s worth it—It’s a bit fat no from me. They aren’t the worst online marketing business I’ve ever seen. SOME people make money. But there are simply so many better ways to go about things.
One of the best ways to make money these days is with a real legit online venture. It’s something I’ve been doing a lot of recently, and it’s called Local Lead Generation. This stuff is as cool as it gets. You need to check it out ASAP instead of pyramid schemes like Amway. You’ll be glad you did.
It’s one of the best Online Trading Academy Reviews Around—My Findings Are Inside…
I always remember this Rolls Royce that was parked in my neighborhood.
Man, I used to love that car.
It was owned by this cool old guy. He’d worked his whole life in a regular job to save for it. Treated himself when he retired. Sometimes he’d take me for a ride around the block, or pay me to clean it.
This guy had worked 70-hour weeks more often than not. He deserved that cool car.
I want a Rolls Royce too.
Trouble is, I don’t really like the sound of 70-hour weeks. I don’t really wanna work that much in a MONTH.
Man, I wanted one of those!
You might say I’m lazy. You might be right. But we’ve all gotta dream.
So I’ve always been on the lookout for a way to get-rich-quick. That’s why I was first drawn to the idea of becoming a day-trader. Stocks and Forex and the like. Truth is I didn’t know the first thing about any of those things, but I liked the idea of sitting by the beach sipping a cocktail while my portfolio grew and grew.
As I soon learned, making money is never that easy.
This was way before I’d started making some real bank with Local Lead Generation. That’s as cool as it gets, and I’ll fill you in on it in a bit.
But first, back to that stock-trading dream I had.
Since I realized I didn’t know the first thing about it, I knew I needed to learn more. That’s when I first heard about something called Online Trading Academy.
If you wanna know more about THAT, then you’re in the right place.
I did a bit more research and saw some good reviews. I decided to jump in. I was gonna be a money-making trader within weeks, right? Maybe not.
In the end, Online Trading Academy was quite a journey. If you wanna hear about it, then you’re in the right place with my Online Trading Academy review.
Online Trading Academy Review
First thing’s first—you wanna know what Online Trading Academy actually is. I got you.
It’s basically exactly what it says it is. It’s an education course that aims to train normal people like you and me to be profitable traders.
They’ve actually got a range of different products you can buy.
This whole gig started with an “orientation” day. I had to meet with someone called an Education Counsellor. That’s really just a fancy name for a sales rep. And man, do they sell you the dream. I was gonna have that Rolls and more within months, according to them. I was pretty hyped, but also dubious.
So the orientation day was a half-day course. They didn’t tell me much, but they made sure they made everything sound awesome, and easy. After that, I’d have to pay $300 for a 3-day course. This seemed a bit much, but I thought that if those 3 days gave me the info to become a profitable day-trader, it’d be all good.
It soon transpired that the 3-day course was ANOTHER sales pitch. Just a longer one. We were taught a few bits about trading and the differences between markets and what a lot of the terms meant. Useful info, I guess—but nothing you can’t get elsewhere for free.
At the course, I met a lot of other people who were in a similar position to me. Some of them were pretty cool.
One thing I did notice was how many older folks were on the course. A lot of retired guys. I soon realized that this was the core audience for Online Trading Academy.
The main pitch was to get you to sign up for more classes. More expensive classes. They said they had a patented trading technique that was a guaranteed way to make money.
I’m not sure how you can patent a trading technique, but I was intrigued. I’m also not sure why they aren’t just printing money with this technique themselves, if it was really that easy.
It’s worth remembering that this Online Trading Academy is NOT an online course. It’s a course to train for online trading. You still gotta visit a bricks-and-mortar location to get your training on-site. This isn’t one of those remote deals. I was a bit disappointed by that news, but at least they had plenty of locations to attend.
Things were getting fishy.
Anyway, at the end of the first bit of info (what I call: the sales pitch) you fill out a questionnaire. This is the main crux of their business model. This is where they find out how much money you’re playing with. I was surprised by how many people simply freely gave up all their financial details. They’d already bought into the dream-sell.
And it’s at this point things got fishier. The team of sales reps started seriously targeting those older guys. The people who probably had more spare cash. The people with retirement funds. Some other guys who basically turned up with nothing (like a lot who’re chasing these sort of dreams) got ignored.
And THAT’S because the next range of training cost a truck-load. We’re talking many thousands here. I was on the borderline because I didn’t have a ton of cash, but I wasn’t poor. The sales team were already pushing hard on the old folk.
There’s a 7-day course for $8,000 or a longer one (a couple of weeks) that comes in at $19,000. Wow. That’s not chicken feed.
At this point, I had two options. Spend a LOT of cash on something I wasn’t truly convinced about… Or walk away from the dream. But what about the Rolls?
What decision would you make at this point? I’d already seen enough deals like this go wrong, and the price of the longer course was about all I had.
So what did I do?
I know you’re reading this review wanting ALL the info, but if I’m honest with you—I did a runner.
The first day or so of meetings hadn’t reassured me anything about their info. The trouble was, a lot of people had been even more sucked in than me. I was worried about them.
But maybe I’m just being overly picky? I still wanted to know more about Online Trading Academy. Maybe I’d made a mistake in walking away?
On the course, I met a guy called Roger. Roger was a bit older, recently retired. He had some money to play with, but he also wanted more. He was saving for a condo in Florida for the winters.
Roger’s dream condo.
Roger was a chill dude. Had some cool stories.
Problem was, he’d bought into the Online Trading Academy bigtime. Hook, line and sinker. I tried to tell him to tread with caution as this seemed a lot like a scam. I managed to meet up with Roger a few months later and he filled me in on how it all went. So the rest of this review’s kinda from his perspective. More on that in a minute.
I’m always a bit suspicious of these sort of sales deals. I know there’s nothing wrong with getting an education, but I always wonder why these guys are selling such groundbreaking info if they’re cracked the markets themselves.
Surely giving it away is just gonna make it harder for them to make money themselves with their own great system?
Why wouldn’t you just keep that stuff to yourself and actually make loads of money actually trading?
Maybe I’m giving them too much flak. Maybe I’m thinking from a selfish perspective. These guys just wanna share the knowledge, right?
Or maybe their “system” isn’t actually that great. Maybe they don’t actually know how to turn a nobody into a money-making machine.
Maybe the only way they know how to make money is by selling the dream, rather than living it.
Even though I’d already walked away from the Online Trading Academy, I still wanted to know more. I did my own research, and I also checked in with Roger.
The first bit of research I did was to check out the Better Business Bureau. These guys give the lowdown on all sorts of companies you might not have heard of. So I rammed “Online Trading Academy BBB” into Google and visited the site.
The good: It’s got an A+ Rating. Nice. I’ve seen a lot worse.
But there are also a LOAD of complaints. And some of them are way worse than just not liking the product. Some people felt seriously ripped off—out of A LOT of money. Some were unable to cancel and were charged thousands.
What about Roger, how did he got on? He had a similar experience.
He ended up signing up for a $16,000 boatload of courses. They lasted a couple of weeks. Roger signed up to pay in instalments, so only paid the first $3,000. That’s both good and bad.
In reality, Roger told me that their patented trading idea wasn’t up to much. Just like I’d thought. With all the info Roger learned, he didn’t have enough to become a profitable trader.
The reality of that game is that it’s MUCH harder than it looked.
So Roger tried to cancel and back out of the rest of the payments. This wasn’t possible. He was out all that cash in the end. And no closer to his dreams of the condo in Florida. Further away if anything.
I felt bad for Roger, but at least he still had some cash left. There were people in much more volatile financial positions on the course. I was worried about them.
That’s some chunk of change.
But I was also relieved. After all, I only lost $300. It could have been worse. MUCH worse.
The more research I do on Online Trading Academy, the more sceptical I’m becoming. Had anyone made any money from this?
I even heard some rumors that the sales reps themselves were struggling. Roger also told me that the “pro picks” he’d been so hyped about didn’t add up to much. There weren’t any “pro” traders in the Online Trading Academy anyway. It seemed like there were just salespeople.
But what about those reviews I mentioned? How comes there was such a dramatic difference between MY experience and those other people?
Maybe those guys got lucky.
Or maybe… Those reviews are just trying to sell you Online Trading Academy.
There’s a lot of that around, and you’ve gotta take every review you read about things like Online Trading Academy with a pinch of salt. Even this one.
So it’s an Online Trading Academy scam then?
If it looks like a scam, smells like a scam, and tastes like a scam. It’s a scam.
The good news is that it’s NOT a pyramid scheme. I’ve seen a few of those in this industry where the course or product barely even exists. The only real way to make money with them is recruiting more sales reps.
This does have a course, and it takes a few weeks. That’s obviously gonna cost some time and money. But this much money? I don’t think so.
I was put off by the predatory practices I saw when I first visited the taster session. This wasn’t for me, but it was off-putting how many other people had got sucked in.
And what about the actual info learned in the course? Listen, I learned a bit on the first day, and Roger did learn SOME STUFF. It’s not completely without value. But the guarantees they offer about potential earnings and how easy it’s gonna be are way off the mark.
Trading like this ain’t easy.
If it was then everyone’d be doing it. If it was then Online Trading Academy would be doing it themselves instead of selling way over-priced courses. The reality is, you can learn a lot of this info for FREE online. Or at least with some Udemy courses that only set you back a few bucks.
All these reasons are why I decided that the Online Trading Academy is not something I’d be recommending to my buddies. You can make that decision yourself, but I hope I’ve helped.
If you wanna know about a real way to make money online, you should check out Local Lead Generation. I actually showed Roger this, and he’s doing much better now. Local Leads are really taking off and it’s a cool way to set up your own bit of internet-realty. It’s not a get-rich-quick scheme, and I’m not gonna tell you you’re gonna be a millionaire in weeks… But those kind of sales pitches are normally scams anyway, right?
But I’m glad I found Local Lead Generation. Roger is too.